Non physical components/states of being

What are non-physical components comprised of (or what is mind comprised of)?
Ans: 10/12/2008
Such interpretation regarding what are non physical aspects comprised of is best achieved when mind completely mingles with FC. Meaning that there is no communication gap between the mind and all inclusive FC.
But, in human manifestation, the experiences, which form the reason for an incarnation, can be experienced in 3 states - sleeping, dreaming and waking. Ideally, as far as I perceive, there should be no dream state as it has astral sub reality connection.
Regarding waking state: In the waking state, pay attention to everyting. All should be inclusive of your existence. For example, if you are walking, you should be able to include everything - the trees, birds on trees, smell of different flowers, colour of the sky, birds on sky, people who are passing by, things that are going on in your conscious mind, various noises, etc. When you are doing any other work, like reading etc, you are ideally engrossed in reading, but you should be 'aware' of what is going around you.
Sleep state: In sleep state also, 'awareness' should be there. That is a state when you have closed contacts with the external world. So, the aim should be here to bring your awareness to FC, which includes the two worlds (mind + external). I think, for a self realized person, both these states are same - sleep and waking. But for others, they need to work towards it. How I will work towards this, I'll know with observation.

Dec 18, 2008:

Non-physical or subtle aspects comprise the ida, pingala and sushmana. There is one more energy center which is the point of interface between mind and body. When this energy system is nicely integrated with the body, we have a grounded consciousness. When this energy system is let loose, we have ungrounded consciousness. Ida is the energy system for emotional experiences (Feminine energy). Pingala is the masculine energy, which involves query and analysis. Only when these two parts of the energy system are well balanced, can we enter the sushmana or pure consciousness.

22nd Dec 2008:

So, the need is to have an energy system which is fully integrated with the body and knows the body and the physical aspects. The energy system which is not fully integrated with the body is capable of falling into virtual reality (ie lives in physical as well as non-physical). Once it is fully grounded, it can qualify to be capable of entering non physical without falling trap to astral subreality.

18th Feb 2008

If we want that in all states we are the 'knower' and in sleeping as well as waking state we don't fall trap to astral subreality, we need to empower our status as 'observer' or 'consciousness'. This is possible if we are able to work from our core essence all time. Then relevant memories are never lost since pure consciousness is what we are dealing in and our minds can't be hijacked.

Qurery - required?

FC is all knowing. It encompasses everything. It can only be experienced and not known intellectually. So, is the process of raising questions required?
Ans. Right. FC encompasses all there is. But for the process of birth, it does limit its all encompassing knowledge. It has a set of derived experiences. If we let ourselves just flow with these experiences and consider them as everything, then we get away considerably from reality and build illusionary realities for ourselves. We forget that soul is just a vessel carrying experiences and body is the meduim. If body and outer world are only considered as 'what is', our journey gets tiring and bulky. So, if we raise queries, we do get answers from our deepest aspects and we are, to a large extent, avoided from the trouble of getting astray and remain at par with intended 'what is' (ie the intent of the consiousness. Also, this is an effective method of opening up communication with our deepest aspects. Can't comment on whether or not it takes one to self realization, but it does help from getting astray and looking for external support.
Note: Prior to writing this note down, in the morning I was having a feeling that I will all together give up asking questions and accept life as it is and as it comes. Happened to pass by a butcher shop and he was beheading a hen. Felt repulsive and bad. Was grief stricken for the hen as it was crying for its life. Had a feeling that throughout the day, I'll not be able to get normal perhaps as the sight is a real pity. Must have been in this state for about half an hour. Then a query came to my mind: Have I seen the sight? Could I alter it? Why is the butcher slitting the hen's head? What is causing this disgusting feelings in me?
I got my answers: I can't change the sight of seeing the hen cry with pain and neither can I alter it as the law of demand and supply is operating. People consuming the hen like food will relish it and that's why butcher is chopping off its head. Even if I take this particular hen home, there are so many others being bred for this specific purpose. So, the butcher is right. But its a sorry sight seeing the hen like this. These thoughts are being aggravated by astral forces (to this intensity). So, I'd better proceed with other tasks and let go off this thought.

Grades of manifestion

Does FC incarnate in grades ie essentially a soul goes through series of manifestions in an order? First non animated matter, then insects, then animals, then human type animals and then human beings? Or there is no order at all?
Why does fc become an animal to bear so much pain and suffering? Deer is killed by lion, animals are slaughtered by human beings and so on. Is this a part of joy of being?

Other universes and their significance

What is meant by other universes? Have read a lot about it. Why does fundamental consciousness need these separate universes ? I do understand that its expanse is unlimited and it really can't fit into one universe. But definitely these universes are kept for having separate experiences.
Eg on earth there is currently 'slog in the situation and try hard for enlightenment' type of environment [better word rather than 'slog yourself' is that there has been a mojor departure from the real nature]? But in the other universes, fundamental consciousness puts the soul near final dissolution into situations (that are preventing the soul from final dissolution). The soul can experience these situations easily as compared to this planet (where a physical experience in matter is more painful) and then have the necessary experience and easily dissolve?
Soul takes birth according to the health of its non-physical aspects (soul represents non-physical aspects).
What happens if there is a major deviation from 'what is' in a particular incarnation of a soul? Will the soul fall trap in karma scenario or will everything (fruits or punishment!!) be done in the same birth?

What is this love

What is this strange feeling of love, which I can't express? I feel it as a pinch of pain in my heart. It is overflowing. This love wants to embrace everyone. When I touch a piece of furniture, love flows from my hand to the furniture, when I cook, it gets to food, when I sit to do work, this love fills it. There is so much of love inside. Sometimes when I am alone, I shiver with this love because its ready to embrace the world. What is this love

Who Am I?

Who am I? Why does the question arise so many times? There is none waiting to discover, nothing to be discovered and nothing to be liberated. So do I dwell on it so as to bring tears into my eyes? So as to feel incomplete, so as to go into my own shell, so as to come out of my shell and face the world, which is no one but me again? Why are things not the same as they seem to be? What is it that I lack and get a sense of being left out?
23/11/08
FC till date, did not express its entire will to be self realized as all the experiences are a part of it only. But down the line, due to the process of taking birth, many distortions of beliefs and all derogatory practices started. So, it needs to balance its working in manifest form - there should be sufficient number of people who are realized and who can show the reality/right path or act as mirrors for the manifest form. Today, there are innumerable troubles in the current form of the world. All this needs to be made 'favourable' for existence again so that 'what is' for each birth can be achieved. Also, so much of matter is waiting (currently in non-living form also) to be born. It can realize its own potential after being born. To have a balanced existence souls need to be dissolved in FC so that inanimate matter also gets its 'chance' to have a mind rather than just vibrations for impressions.
To zap to grounding post procedure:
There is none waiting to discover, nothing to be discovered and nothing to be liberated.
Depending on the need in a particular manifestation, discovery of truth has to be done.

11 Dec 2008
FC is a set of experiences plus more. Fine. The ideal situation for us is not be to incarnated at any time. This will be possible when we have exhausted all our experiences and there are no more in line. Then comes the state of non-incarnation. So, if one is self realized, then the set of experiences which are required by any incarntation, become transparent and clear and there is no additional experience being added to the original set. Ideally, a state of self realization helps a particular mind to experience everything without getting involved in it. So, it is possible that the incarnation in question is able to experience a lot more than what it could, if it were not self-realized. So, chances of reaching non-incarnation state increase. Also, for subsequent lifetimes, the incarnation in question can minimize its experiences and increase its chances of birth in those universes where self realized incarnations only manifest. This will further speed up the process of non-incarnation.
OK, incarnation happens because of experiences required, what is non-incarnated state?

What is real

Current experiment (Hydraulic collider?) and thoughts coming as a result:According to the study recently conducted, the entire universe (if we just see the physical aspect) is bound together by particles (don't know what they are called). This implies that there is a connection in the universe in terms of non-physical aspects also (as this is not visible to naked eyes).
All these particles are a part of fundamental consciousness? Then why is it that some particles (souls) incarnate and other particles reamin in a dissolved state? What causes s0-called incarnation? The force in consciousness? Anywhere in the universe, the fundamental consciousness manifests in body or illuminates a soul to develop a virtual reality for its experience? Does our soul have an 'energy' signature? Once this energy signature is gone, the soul completely dissolves back to fundamental consciouness again and there is no need to
incarnate.
24/11/08
Question answered in the topic 'Why incarnation'

Composition of consciousness

Soul is a part of transient nature of consciousness, just as a body is. So is it that when body is gone, soul remains. (NO: There is only mind. No soul. When body goes, mind should dissolve. It doesen't because of its attachments, which is an error.

When this soul also merges in the fundamental consciousness, then there is no incarnation?
There is nothing as no incarnation. See other topics.

What are 'fragments of soul'? How and why are they created and how are they recovered?
What does then naked or bare consciousness mean? See topic on awareness

Why incarnation

What is the reason for incarnation? Why does fundamental consciousness incarnate? What does state of non-incarnation mean (Being non-attached all the time)? After having achieved the state of non-incarnation, is there any possibility of incarnating again (say for benefit of others or anything else)? Does consciousness 'choose' to incarnate in a particular set of circumstances (essentially to gain some experience)? Where does the need for such experience arise?
Does consciousness have desires in itself?
24/11/08
Consciousness does not have desires in itself per say. But FC is an array of experieces plus more. FC in non-manifest form stores these experiences in an array (just like memory locations in a computer). In each array, there are some basic experiences (which form the basic reason for incarnation. Whatever is stored here can't be altered and are a part of 'what is' for a particular incarnation. These include attributes like birth time, duration and death). There are 'derived' experiences also. These derived or serrogate experiences support the cause of manifestion. These can be altered if one is aware enough.
For the purpose of animating this set of experiences, FC needs to 'limit' its 'all knowing' status. Otherwise, it will not be able to observe/experiece that particular experience in totality. It makes use of soul (mind principle) which encapsulates that particular experience (just like in computer programming we declare classes to carry on a specified set of tasks. Each class further has functions which actually perform that task, but within the purview of that class boundary). Thus, soul is a part of FC. FC knows all about the soul, but the soul knows only what FC allows it to know. This soul thus stores information and carries on tasks that are 'what is' for a particular incarnation. When all these tasks have been performed, the set of derived experiences have a 'changed' status because of any new experiences in the incarnation. Now, further incarnations if any, for a particular soul depend upon these derived experiences. The incarnations for the soul in question last as long as the derived experiences last. When the derived experiences become minimal, then the density of soul also lessens and it becomes easier for it to merge back into FC.
Between the incarnations, a soul may rest and in a 'non incarnated state' and wait for its 'possiblity' or chance to get animated, which depends on the overall experiences that FC has to execute.
Regarding self realized people: Their set of derived experiences are less and so the soul stands a strong chance of merger/dissolution back into FC. Even though the soul still has to transcend itself and release all the experiences before final merger, still it is less dense and if the manifested soul lives in 'what is', s/he is able to minimize its manifestations.
Regarding other people (who live purely for themselves): Their derived experiences keep accumulating because of the added 'desires' and their 'attachments' to these desires. They act for the purpose of fulfilling the ever increasing desires and drift away from the initial small set of 'what is' and therefore, have to take birth again and again for the derived set.

Question:
FC is a set of experiences plus more. What is this 'plus more'? What else does FC comprise?

What is the role of force in the process of creation? If once a soul has been freed or does not hold any more experiences, can it then again incarnate or can it then be used for the purpose of creation?

Clue:FC is a set of experiences plus more. So, the dynamic part comprises the experiences. But there is a static part also that does not go any manifestation and thus does not change. What is this static part (The 'observer' status if fine, but what causes fc to undergo experiences to have 'observer' status?

What is more important factor in the process of incarnation - the soul or the experience (we always get attached to 'me' or the soul aspect and forget completely the fact that we are in other words, an experience. Soul is a vessel or a mode of transport for that set of experience)?

Total awareness

What 'awareness' implies? If I am having a dream, I think that is true (so my awareness or
consciousness is stuck there). If I am sleeping, I am unaware of everything else. So that is my awareness then. When I am awake, I can experience nothing else but my surroundings. So, that is my level of awareness then. How can I then reconcile all these states? Is awareness at any other level(s) apart from these states: dream, waking, sleeping?
23/11/08
'Awareness' is knowing 'what is' or the reality or the fact that I am just a witness to all phenomina that is a part of me. If I am angry, for that moment, I lose all my awareness to that anger. If I am happy, for that moment I lose all that awareness to that happiness. The balanced approach is to know that anger, happiness (or any other feeling) are a part of me and not the composite me. So, I am an observer or witness to all 'that is' (if we look at it, this is a duality in a sense that FC acts like an 'observer' to all its own components. It does not lose its true nature of a composite whole to any one component) . All that is in the matter, all that is in the mind and everything is just a part of me and not the whole of me. So, while in waking state, I am aware that waking is just a one component of me. While in sleeping state, I am still aware that sleep is a part of me. But if the mind in manifested body is not aware, then it is not able to reconcile with me, the reality and limits itself to one state/emotion/surrounding. So, the mind creates all illusionary realities from where dualities from where the drift deepens between me (FC), the real nature and nature of mind.
Nov 28, 2008
When we make such progress in the waking state, life does starts to improve and we have a better established or grounded awareness. However, for the sleeping as well as dreaming states, this awareness has to be built up. Ideally, I feel that there should'nt be a dreaming state. For sleeping state, this awareness strikes you once you start letting go off things in a positive manner. For example. yesterday, for the first time, I experienced such feeling. Till date, whenever I sleep, I just get into a reverie mode or else used to chant some mantras, which would help me to doze off to sleep. Once I got used to avoiding 'astral' connection, I again used to doze off to sleep with reveries. But yesterday, for the first time, something else struck my mind amidst my thoughts - I should 'know or should be aware' that I am going to sleep state. There should be a silence of thoughts in my mind before I sleep so that my thoughts don't invite an astral connection in sleep mode. There was a kind of knowing or awareness in this process of sleep, however, I tried to ensure that this does not lead to 'concenteration' which goes into meditation and thus astral subreality. Will further probe into it to understand what this actually means.

11 Dec 2008
Ok. I now understand the meaning of 'awareness'. But in practice, its not that easy to live it. I try to 'include' everything in me and be a part of everything ie I try to be a part of everything that is going around me. Try to keep my mind at par with the present moment and not delve in the past or have a wishful thinking about future. But its not that easy really. Mind still dwindles a lot. Think I'll take time to be grounded.
However, I still get angry and am not able to control it. Will try to 'watch' my anger. But then, anger doesen't come uninvited. This one emotion of anger brings in so many others and then the turbulance. The usual calm is then replaced with rising tides.